president obama has funded a program. i was fortunate enough to apply it and won a lot of awards and the state, so i have been turned down for other programs and they finally accepted me in this program. it has been a tremendous blessing for me. when it comes to the work, i worked nonstop. there are too many cases, too much stuff going on. you just cannot do it in 40 hours. >> final dawn porter comment , -- final comment around the issue of racial prejudice, dawn what's most prisoners, most people arrested our young minority people. we're creating a permanent underclass. if you do not have been zealous representation or people like travis and brandy who come from these neighborhoods, who see their clients as people and not statistics or numbers, who care about their lives, we're going to keep funneling and losing a lot of talent. >> thank you both for being here, travis williams, public defender in georgia, and dawn porter, a lawyer turned filmmaker, director of the hbo documentary, "gideon's army closed with a premiered